10-07-2026
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Just a few years ago, a conversation like this would have been almost unimaginable.
Dr. Robert Redfield was serving as Director of the CDC during one of the most controversial periods in modern public health. Meanwhile, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny was publicly labeled as part of the “Disinformation Dozen,” censored across major platforms, and criticized for challenging COVID policy and vaccine safety.
Today, they’re sitting across from each other.
That fact alone says something has changed.
Dr. Robert Redfield, former Director of the CDC and author of Redfield’s Warning: What I’ve Learned That Could Save Your Life, joins Dr. Tenpenny to examine what happened inside America’s public health response during COVID. He discusses the decisions he now believes were major mistakes, including vaccine mandates, school closures, economic shutdowns, and the failure to honestly communicate what public health officials knew, what they didn’t know, and what should have been handled differently.
He also explains why he no longer recommends mRNA vaccines in his own clinical practice, why he believes COVID is primarily a vascular disease rather than a respiratory disease, and what he is seeing in patients suffering from long COVID and vaccine-related injuries.
When the discussion turns to bird flu, the conversation takes on another dimension. Long before COVID, Dr. Tenpenny was researching and writing about pandemic preparedness and the bird flu narrative in her 2005 book Fowl! Bird Flu: It’s Not What You Think. Dr. Redfield warns that bird flu, gain-of-function research, and failures in biosecurity could shape the next global public health crisis. Hearing these two physicians explore that subject together brings decades of experience, very different perspectives, and one shared understanding: the next pandemic deserves far more scrutiny than the last.
Redfield’s Warning provides the broader research and personal reflections behind his public warnings. This conversation goes further by putting those warnings under direct questioning and exploring the decisions that continue to affect millions of people today.
Listen carefully to what is said in this conversation. It is rare to hear a former CDC Director openly discuss the mistakes he believes were made during one of the most mandated and controversial public health responses in modern history. Whether you agree with every point or not, this discussion deserves to be heard, examined, and shared.
Meet our Guest
Dr. Robert Redfield is a physician, virologist, and former Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), where he served from 2018 to 2021 during the COVID-19 pandemic. A longtime infectious disease specialist, he spent more than two decades at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research studying HIV and other viruses before co-founding the Institute of Human Virology in Baltimore.
Today, he serves as Senior Fellow for Biosecurity and Public Health Policy at the Heritage Foundation while continuing to treat patients suffering from long COVID and vaccine-related illnesses. He is the author of Redfield’s Warning: What I’ve Learned That Could Save Your Life, a firsthand account of the pandemic, public health policy, and the growing need for transparency and preparedness.
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