The Tenpenny Files with Mary Holland

Most people believe vaccine safety has already been settled. This conversation asks a harder question. What if that assumption is not as complete as it seems?

Mary Holland joins this episode to examine vaccine safety through the research presented in Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth. The discussion moves directly into how vaccine safety is studied, what evidence is used to support it, and where gaps may exist that are rarely addressed in everyday medical conversations.

You will hear how safety is evaluated across different stages and why questions remain about whether those evaluations are sufficient. The conversation connects those concerns to real-life decisions parents are making right now, especially as chronic health conditions in children continue to rise. It brings forward the tension between what is presented as settled science and what is still being debated in research and legal settings.

The discussion also explores the growing legal challenges surrounding vaccine policy. Lawsuits involving major medical organizations are attempting to examine long-standing claims about safety, accountability, and informed consent. These cases raise important questions about who determines acceptable risk and whether families are being given the full scope of information needed to make those decisions.

There is also a closer look at the medical system itself. Why do most physicians not question the framework they were trained in? What pressures exist that discourage open discussion? These are questions that rarely surface in routine care but are central to understanding how current policies continue.

This interview gives you the dialogue around what you will find in the book. It helps answer the questions that come up as you read and brings clarity to ideas that deserve a deeper look. The book is where the full body of research lives. It is an essential piece in your library. Make sure to get your copy so you can go deeper into this discussion, fill in what cannot be covered here, and have a resource you can return to and share with others. This is a very important book, and one that is referenced often across ongoing conversations because of the depth it brings to this subject.

Meet the Guest:

Mary Holland, Esq. is President of Children’s Health Defense and has been active in the health freedom movement for over two decades. She previously served as General Counsel, overseeing litigation involving vaccine mandates, informed consent, free speech, and government regulation.

She is the author and editor of several books on vaccine policy, including Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth. Before her work with CHD, she was a professor at NYU School of Law and Columbia Law School, where she taught human rights advocacy and legal strategy.

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